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Post by The HangMan on Apr 25, 2006 4:40:51 GMT -5
so the one with the axe is erl ?
are they in Devil's Rejects ?
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Post by hotnoodletuna on Apr 25, 2006 18:23:18 GMT -5
Nope. Devil' Rejects is 10000 times better than Corpses. And I actually thought corpses was ok unlike most of the world
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Post by hotnoodletuna on Apr 25, 2006 18:25:06 GMT -5
damn Aussie!
Hey now! You can't slam a man on a message board that he doesn't even belong to LMAO
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Post by ChemicalTrain on Apr 25, 2006 21:25:09 GMT -5
Nope. Devil' Rejects is 10000 times better than Corpses. And I actually thought corpses was ok unlike most of the world same here
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Post by Lust del Carrion on Apr 27, 2006 20:12:14 GMT -5
and same here.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Apr 27, 2006 20:32:18 GMT -5
There was a deleted scene from TDR with Dr. Satan that was extremely bloody.
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Post by Lust del Carrion on Apr 27, 2006 23:25:58 GMT -5
Yea I saw that. It was pretty sweet. The nurse goes from a white dress to a red dress in a matter of seconds. lol
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Post by Butcher on May 13, 2006 3:05:02 GMT -5
My thoughts are that 1000 Corpses sucked, and Rejects was pretty great. And I'm going wiht whoever it was that said that just because TCM's on lists if top Slasher films and the like, doesn't mean it is one!! That is madness to me. "Look the sky is green, it says so on the Top 100 sky colors list!" hehe Anyway, I've always kinda hated how that movie gets called a slasher film. It's vastly different from those movies. Also, I'm commenting on old posts, but oh, well: I disagree with the criteria for a slasher film that was laid out by hotnoodletuna. None of that stuff makes a slasher a slasher to me. A slasher movie is a movie where people are killed off by a stalking killer who's identity is known throughout the movie, and that's about all there is to it. The stuff about "teens being punished fo having fun and drinking, doing drugs, having sex" and all that are simply frequent cliches within the genre. They don't make it what it is in my opinion, in fact there are many in the genre that have none of that stuff.
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Post by Lust del Carrion on May 14, 2006 21:43:17 GMT -5
That was HNT and I that said TCM was not a slasher. Also, what is with just saying Corpses just flat out sucked. Gimme a reason man. I thought Corpses was a fun film that paid homage to stuff like TCM. Sure it's not the greatest, but it was alot better than the crap that had been coming out and is still coming out. Anyways I agree with HNT on his criteria for slasher films. That is basically the set up, and yea there are few exceptions to that, but not enough to say that doesn't make a slasher film.
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Post by The HangMan on May 15, 2006 13:31:30 GMT -5
as much as i hate to say this i also agree with HNT (there i said it)
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Post by Butcher on May 15, 2006 21:40:36 GMT -5
That was HNT and I that said TCM was not a slasher. Also, what is with just saying Corpses just flat out sucked. Gimme a reason man. I thought Corpses was a fun film that paid homage to stuff like TCM. Sure it's not the greatest, but it was alot better than the crap that had been coming out and is still coming out. My reason for disliking 1000 corpses is that in my opinion it lacks the depth that it takes to make a movie like that work. The characterization of the kids in the movie is so shallow that you don't care what ahppens to them at all. The tone and storyline jump around all over the place, and it is nearly incoherrent. Sherri Moon's performance was very bad to me, and she brought the movie down for me too. I understand that it's Zombie's first movie, and that these kind of mistakes are expected from a first time director, but that isn't enough of an excuse for me to give it a pass. Neither is the "it's better than most of the stuff coming out" thing. I can't change my standards on what is good, and what is bad, just because there are more bad movies than good ones coming out. I would like to add that I totally respect your opinion on this movie, and don't ever want to seem like I'm trying to insult anyone for having a different opinion than I have!! I don't quite follow you here. What you seem to be saying is that the criteria laid out by HNT makes a movie a slasher movie, right? But, there are exeptions to the rule? The criteria, by definition cannot have exceptions. If there are exeptions, that alone shows us that what HNT said are simply things that are found in many, or even most slasher flicks, but those alone don't make any movie fall into that sub-genre. If they did, the exeptions to the rule would not fall into the genre the way they do. A good example of my point is the defining characteristics of the giallo film. Essentially the only difference between slasher and giallo is the mystery aspect, where we don't know who the killer is. Most gialli have a killer who wears black gloves, but since some others don't, we can clearly see that having a black gloved killer does not make the movie a giallo. With slashers, most of them have teens being killed after "sinning" and the clean/virgin/whatever girl survives, but some others don't have this, so we can see that these things are not the defining characteristics of the slasher movie. I'm sure you'll probably still disagree with me, and if that's the case oh well. We'll agree to disagree on this matter.
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Post by Lust del Carrion on May 15, 2006 23:43:44 GMT -5
I still stand by my opinion and HNT's for the criteria. Im saying that yea there are always going to be exceptions to everything. For the majority of slasher films though they meet that criteria of having teens being killed, sex, drugs, camp, and so on. There are always going to be the oens that stand out though and those are films that truely are good. Sure the Friday the 13th movies are fun classic slashers to watch, but I don't think they can be called a good movie. blah....I don't know what Im saying......I guess Im saying thats the criteria for slashers, but the ones that don't follow it are the ones that stick out and are good....whatever..lol....Im tired.
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Post by The HangMan on May 16, 2006 3:48:34 GMT -5
so what film are you saying is not a slasher film Butcher HO1KC
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on May 16, 2006 11:45:51 GMT -5
1000 Corpses is a slasher, but TDR is an exploitation movie.
EDIT: I thought about it a bit and 1000 Corpses is not a slasher.
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Post by Butcher on May 17, 2006 17:42:52 GMT -5
so what film are you saying is not a slasher film Butcher HO1KC No, I was talking about TCM there. I keep jumping around. Sorry for the confusion.
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Post by Lust del Carrion on May 17, 2006 21:43:25 GMT -5
lol....well in any case I don't consider HO1KC, TDR, or TCM slashers.
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Post by hotnoodletuna on May 22, 2006 20:53:03 GMT -5
Inf3ct is absolutely correct IMHO. All three of them are exploitation films. None of them are slashers
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on May 23, 2006 11:31:42 GMT -5
Very true.
A slasher movie needs a central killer or killers (Scream).
All three of these films had a family doing the killing and/or terrorizing.
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Post by Lust del Carrion on May 25, 2006 23:06:31 GMT -5
Plus the whole style and tone of the film.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on May 26, 2006 6:49:34 GMT -5
1000 Corpses could have been much better.
It was Rob Zombie's first film though, so I can understand.
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Post by Lust del Carrion on May 26, 2006 12:47:31 GMT -5
Yea it definitely could have been better, but I still enjoy it alot.
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Post by ChemicalTrain on Jun 27, 2006 1:43:26 GMT -5
I hate to bring this argument back up, BUT... ;D
Excuse me, the criteria for a slasher is a single stalking killer knocking people off one by one? Hmmm....alright. Well how about we look at the name. SLASHER. The criteria is people getting slashed up, and that definately happens a helluvalot in House of 1000 Corpses and TCM. I'm not saying it's a pure slasher, but don't make it out like it's nutso that someone would call them or consider them slasher.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Jun 27, 2006 6:07:53 GMT -5
You make a good point.
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Post by Lust del Carrion on Jun 30, 2006 22:56:57 GMT -5
In both films there is no single killer and in both films they are not stalked. They just fall into a mess and end up running to the killer or getting chased for a period of time. The dinner scene in TCM is enough to prove that you can't call it a slasher.
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Post by The HangMan on Jul 5, 2006 15:29:50 GMT -5
Very true. A slasher movie needs a central killer or killers (Scream). All three of these films had a family doing the killing and/or terrorizing. SO WHATS WRONG TURN THEN
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